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cjsmith ([personal profile] cjsmith) wrote2006-11-21 08:53 pm

Workouts without standing up

OK, situps work PART of my abs. If I do enough situps I get that nice "I did something" twinge in a band just below my belly button. What works the sides? What works the upper area between my belt and my ribs?

[identity profile] bigredpaul.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
The actions of the abdominal muscles:

Rectus Abdominus (the six-pack): flexes the spine, bringing the ribs closer to the pelvis. so, try this: on your back with feet flat on the floor. inhale, then while exhaling, try to make your ribs touch your pubic bone. don't try to sit up, and keep your arms crossed in front of you. see if you can lift yourself up just at the chest.

Internal and External Obliques: laterally flex the spine in the direction of their side, and rotate the spine (IO to the same side, and EO to the opposite side). so, try this: on your back with feet flat on the floor. inhale, and while exhaling, arms crossed in front, lift one side of your body and try to make it touch your knee. a diagonal sit-up, if that makes sense. when you do this sort of sit-up/crunch to the left, for instance, you are working the internal oblique on the left side and the external oblique on the right side.

Another good one is to lay on your side and lift your torso to the ceiling. that contracts the internal and external oblique on that side.

Finally, the obliques compress abdominal contents, to if you 'suck in your stomach' you'll be exercising them, too. try this: seated, inhale, then as you exhale, compress your abdomen in very slowly, holding it while you exhale. relax on the inhale, compress on the exhale.

If you exhale twice as slowly as you inhale while you are doing these exercises, you'll be really working those muscles.

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
YOU are AWESOME. Thank you!

[identity profile] bigredpaul.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
You're welcome. I recommend a book, Women's Strength Training Anatomy (http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FStrength-Training-Anatomy-Frederic-Delavier%2Fdp%2F0736048138%2Fsr%3D8-2%2Fqid%3D1164173686%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks&tag=broadwaybearsboo&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325)Image by Frederic Délaviér to my female clients. It's a great resource - it's fully illustrated and describes the exercises well.

[identity profile] bigredpaul.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
and finally, work the muscles to exhaustion, as the abdominal muscles are exceedingly strong and can take quite a bit of work.

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
*nod* That's good to know. Maybe, though, I should save that for days when I don't have to sit upright the following morning? ;-)

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks! I'm curious why there needs to be a female version; do women's muscles really go to different bones than men's? (I wouldn't be completely shocked. We're messed up in so many OTHER ways.)

[identity profile] bigredpaul.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
I think the author just wanted to do a book with female illustrations - But also, women's bodies are somewhat different physically. I wouldn't say messed up in any way, just different.

[identity profile] stormecho.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I would think these above exercises work for men as well?

[identity profile] bigredpaul.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, absolutely.

[identity profile] gdmusumeci.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
Try twisted situps?

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I was thinking maybe those, though they've never (if I remember right) made me sore. I may be un-fit enough now that they will.

[identity profile] klwalton.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
Do situps, but touch your left elbow to your right knee and vice versa. Crunches will work the upper area.

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
*nod* I was wondering if crunches would be different. I suppose done right they would. That's where I have to watch myself. ;-)

[identity profile] inflectionpoint.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
I will have to look up some of the sets our yoga teacher taught us, they can be done without ever leaving the floor. It was a kind of yoga called kundalini yoga, and included a lot of what he called "navel point" work, which means abs and muscles in that area.

They included things like the dreaded and evil V seat.

Lie on your back. Raise your legs to about 60 degrees from the floor. Sit up and then open and close your legs. Again and again. While they are at that 60 degrees from the floor.

Then, lie on your back. Flat on the ground. Raise one leg, 60 degrees from the floor. Lower it. Other leg. Do again and again.

Or, there is the one where you bring your legs in toward your chest, and then extend them back out. Repeat. Die of soreness if you are me.

There are more, and I found them challenging but fun.

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
Ohhhhhhhhh yes, the V seat. Dear Lord I hate that. I used to be able to do it, but then I used to be functional. Yikes but that's a mean exercise. So is that last one, presuming it's the one I'm thinking of where you're lying on your back and you're not supposed to let your feet touch the ground in between.

I bet I could get a lot stronger in a lot of ways without standing on my feet or using any equipment at all.

[identity profile] inflectionpoint.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
The exercises were AMAZING!

But... here is the thing. I went to one kundalini yoga class at Yoga Mandala, a studio near me. I finished the class and was sore for two solid weeks - laughing hurt, and both of my partners took too much pleasure in being silly and making jokes so they could watch me laugh and go "Yeowch!" (It was consensual. But man, what a workout.)

Then I took a smaller and much slower class where we learnt the same exercises and things went much better. I like these exercises, but would ramp up slowly.
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[identity profile] hot-turkey.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
I've been assigned to do planks, on all four sides, every night. A plank is pretty much what it sounds like: hold your body as straight as you can, as close to horizontal as you can get it, with your weight supported only at your feet and shoulders. I've been told that if I can get to three minutes on a side, things are very good -- right now I can manage two minutes without too much trouble. This is to deal with lower back pain, which I've had more or less continuously for over six months now.

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yikes, I remember those! I had them only one way (face down) but man, it took me a while to build up to where I could hold it.

[identity profile] pixiecrinkle.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
One of the girls on my roller derby team taught us these weirdo crunches to work the obliques (the side you refer to). You lie on your back, with your knees bent 90 degrees and your feet in the air. Put your hands behind your head. Then, instead of crunching up like a situp, you kind of make your body into a "c" shape, bring your right elbow and your right foot together (well, not together, but toward each other). Then center, and repeat on the left side.

At first they feel like nothing, and just make you look silly. Then you realize the muscles are working and ouch. But good ouch.

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
So you swing your head and pelvis sideways, then? Interesting...

[identity profile] pixiecrinkle.livejournal.com 2006-11-22 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, pretty much. It looks *bizarre*.

[identity profile] ambar.livejournal.com 2006-11-23 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
In addition to everything else already provided, there's the "reverse crunch". Same setup as a normal crunch, but bring knees to nose instead of nose to knees. :-)