Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 06:17 am
Bean soup: onion, celery, a lot of great northern beans, parsley, *some* kind of meat for flavor.

If the meat used is salt pork, the soup turns out to have absolutely no flavor whatsoever. Seriously, this is the blandest thing I've tasted in a long time.

I'm sure some herbs and spices could save this. Beyond the obvious cracked black pepper, what would you add?
Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 01:25 pm (UTC)
Fish sauce (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_sauce). Umami in a bottle.
Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 01:28 pm (UTC)
I know this isn't helpful, but I first parsed your concoction as "brain soup".

Hmm, maybe it might add flavor. :-)
Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 01:58 pm (UTC)
Garlic sauteed in olive oil, mashed up into paste, add savory and thyme.
Or, for a different approach, minced fresh ginger and galangal -- maybe add some mace. A little brown sugar if you like, but not enough to actually taste


Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 02:14 pm (UTC)
Whole cumin seed. But then I'm a little strange when it comes to spices...
Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 02:22 pm (UTC)
I bet some diced ham would help, and Tony C's Cajun Seasoning.
Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 02:26 pm (UTC)
My thought was cumin as well.
Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 02:27 pm (UTC)
Split it into smaller batches and try the various suggestions...and report back on what worked :-)
Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 02:32 pm (UTC)
Were I making it over again, I'd add bay leaves, but they don't do much at the last minute. Also in this category: garlic, broth instead of water (though if you have bullion cubes, you might try tossing an appropriate number of those in and seeing if it helps). I generally put a huge heaping lot of cumin in bean soup, but that's with black beans. Not sure if it goes with northern beans. I also usually add diced carrots and bell peppers (sauted with the onion and celery) and maybe some tomato (added later). Lemon (just a little) or orange (more) juice is good in black bean soup, too.

The smelling things and tossing them in if they match approach sounds like a winner. I might try oregano or savory to start with.
Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 02:38 pm (UTC)
Cumin and corn starch. Or separately, some oregano and spicy italian sausage.
Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 03:28 pm (UTC)
Other vegetables, sauteed in some oil, garlic, and maybe some of the other spices people have mentioned? I'm thinking carrots here, for starters.
Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 03:39 pm (UTC)
Smoke flavoring, maybe?
Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 03:52 pm (UTC)
I'm surprised salt pork made it bland... probably needed some salt in addition to the salt pork when cooking. I'd try adding a bit of salt now... Try adding chili powder to it, a bit at a time. should dress it up.

Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 04:12 pm (UTC)
Any sort of white bean makes me think of cassoulet. So, duck/goose fat, garlic, a little cooked fresh tomato or some stewed/crushed canned tomato, some prosciutto or pancetta? And next time lamb, duck/goose, sausage, pork shoulder, -and- the salt pork. :-)
Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 04:32 pm (UTC)
Did you just dump the salt pork in, or fry it up first? (The one thing I've ever used salt pork for was pierogi - when frying them, a little in with the onions in the pan. Thus I think it's really more "something to have maillard reactions happen to" than a basic flavor :-)
Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 05:01 pm (UTC)
One thing I'm starting to learn is that usually when things I cook come out bland, it's because I haven't added anywhere near enough salt.

I second the advice on frying the salt pork until crispy, first, if you didn't do that; that makes a notable difference.

Beyond that, to try to save it now I'd probably add some sort of fresh herb and simmer it 15 minutes or so to meld that in. Parsley comes to mind; basil or thyme would also work and might be good.

Oh, one other wild idea, which came from my poking at oatmeal recently: If you've got some cream or milk on hand (and can have it with your diet, which I don't remember), maybe adding 1/8-1/4 cup or so to a 2-cup bowl of the soup would be interesting to try, with some of the other things.
Saturday, September 20th, 2008 02:41 am (UTC)
Coming in late on this thread, but... I often find that bean soups without any acid taste really, really bland to me. Some to try, not necessarily together:

* Tomatoes
* Lemon, lime, or orange juice (though orange adds lots of sugar too)
* Wine
* Vinegar. Cider vinegar is my favorite for generic use, but you can also try red wine, rice, or balsamic vinegar (same warning about sugar), depending on the flavors you want.

For the soup you describe, I would add some canned diced tomatoes early in the cooking process, but it's too late for that. :-) Cider vinegar might rescue it, though; apple flavor complements both pork and pale beans. A dry white wine might work too.

I agree with previous posters about Maillard reactions -- always tasty with beans! -- and salt. I'd try those in addition to acid.

So what did you end up doing, and how did it work out? :-)