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Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 08:39 am
I'm trying to tease out a curious change (since, oh, ten years ago) in the meaning of the word geek.

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Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 04:51 pm (UTC)
As to definitions:

The standard discussion is to compare and contrast geek, nerd and dweeb.

geek just means a strong, perhaps excessive, interest in a particular subject: car geeks, computer geeks, theater geeks, comic geek, gaming geek ....
The default is "computer geek"

It doesn't necessarily imply competence in that subject, just interest.

A nerd is someone who has stronger technical than social skills. The default is "science nerd".
Wednesday, April 9th, 2008 01:22 am (UTC)
To me, nerd doesn't imply anything technical. It's just with notably weak skills at social integration, that doesn't otherwise fall into obvious sociopathy or the like.

A lot of nerds are attracted to tech, because tech doesn't need to be interacted with socially, but I don't think tech's inherent to the nerd.

Geek's well-covered above.

Dweeb...well, I don't know that I have a definition for a dweeb. It, along with dork, poindexter, larry, etc., are all just general pejoratives implying nerdiness, but with no real content.
Wednesday, April 9th, 2008 01:31 am (UTC)
A dweeb is what you describe as a nerd. The social skills of a nerd, without the technical ability.

Dweeb...well, I don't know that I have a definition for a dweeb. It, along with dork, poindexter, larry, etc., are all just general pejoratives implying nerdiness, but with no real content.

Well Fuck you very much. Why don't you ram it up your george with a half twist. My name is Larry, and I don't consider the use of it a perjorative.
Wednesday, April 9th, 2008 01:55 am (UTC)
Wow. That's quite a response. Sorry for stepping on your toes; that was insensitive of me.

The term was used extensively by one crowd I was in, and it does show up on Google in a pejorative sense, so it's not something I personally made up. I think this is probably the first time I've trotted it out in years, and apparently in the worst possible context.

So, my apologies.
Wednesday, April 9th, 2008 03:21 am (UTC)
LOL!

That's pretty much what I thought happened, I was quite amused by excellent aim with which you stepped in it with not one, but both feet. So once I did a whois on your domain, and was pretty certain that you weren't just a friend poking fun at me, I figured I'd give you the full benefit of the experience.

:)

One of my ongoing peeves is how in just about any bit of popular fiction, the character named Larry is aways a dweeb or a nebbish. People who know me, and that seems to be most of the planet, would probable define a Larry not as someone clueless about social graces, but someone with an unerring ability to always say exactly the wrong thing.

Sometimes, it amuses me.


Wednesday, April 9th, 2008 03:56 am (UTC)
Heh. You have to admit, if I -had- been a friend intentionally slipping it in there, that would've been a pretty stylish joke!

But no, both feet. I'm glad you weren't irreparably offended. :)

George has its superficial stigmas too, though Misters Clooney and Michael removed many of the older ones, and Misters Bush added newer ones. And Geo, of course, has the cars. Always with the cars.
Wednesday, April 9th, 2008 04:03 am (UTC)
As a friend would say, "I've been called worse things by far more important people than you".

I've also pointed out that I've been a nerd since long before it was fashionable.
Wednesday, April 9th, 2008 08:07 am (UTC)
Do you happen to run around in an oracle crowd? As Oracle is founded and run By Larry Ellison, many people I know will loudly exclaim "Thanks Larry!" if they bump into a bug (Which happened a bit too often with OWB 10.2).