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Friday, August 5th, 2005 12:19 pm
[livejournal.com profile] indyansel, I don't believe this! They're awesome! They arrived in styrofoam with an ice pack. And you knew I liked dark! How'd you know/remember that??

[livejournal.com profile] apparentparadox, that pillow thing is a GODSEND. I used it all day yesterday and I'm using it now.

The long-acting local is definitely all gone now. It's interesting learning how to get around without letting either forefoot touch ANYTHING. I am realizing how much easier things would be with one good leg, particularly in the bathroom. But I'm still glad I don't have to go through surgery twice!

I suspect, as ouchy as this is, that I have it easy in the post-surgical pain department. After all, at the bottom of the incision just coincidentally happens to be a spot where I don't have a nerve any more.

Since the local's worn off I can feel my toes... most of them. On each foot there is a spot I will never feel again, and let me just say right now that is the weirdest sensation I have experienced in thirty-seven years on this earth. It's not half so freaky when I know it's an anaesthetic. This is ME; this is how my body is, forever. A local is also, somehow, not quite as complete a loss of sensation. I touch these toes with my fingers and it's like they're not there at all. Someone substituted plastic toes. Except that the other side of each toe is there. At that point my brain segfaults. It simply cannot make sense of the input it is getting.

For some reason I am still thinking of all this as a grand adventure.
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Friday, August 5th, 2005 07:23 pm (UTC)
"It's not half so freaky when I know it's an anaesthetic. This is ME; this is how my body is, forever. A local is also, somehow, not quite as complete a loss of sensation. I touch these toes with my fingers and it's like they're not there at all. Someone substituted plastic toes. Except that the other side of each toe is there. At that point my brain segfaults. It simply cannot make sense of the input it is getting."

wow, my brain is churning just trying to imagine that.
Friday, August 5th, 2005 07:27 pm (UTC)
Yeah, my brain's not doing so well with it either. (wry grin) Fortunately it doesn't seem to feel weird just to have my feet surrounded by the cloth booties. There's no sense that part of the bootie is in some other dimension and not really there. Hopefully that will remain true with socks and shoes, so I won't be rebooting my brain all over the place when I start walking again.
Friday, August 5th, 2005 07:53 pm (UTC)
Booties of Holding can hold the user's feet and up to 3 cubic yards of possessions in a sub-dimension outside the Prime Material Plane.
Friday, August 5th, 2005 07:58 pm (UTC)
I'd like to know what IV sedation is like -- I'm strongly considering it for my wisdom tooth extraction, and I'll certainly have it if I ever get Essure. Are you totally zonked out or do you remember anything about it? What's the recovery like?

I'm glad things seem to be going well for you so far!
Friday, August 5th, 2005 08:37 pm (UTC)
The "grand adventure" mindset is what got me through most of my stuff. Even when stuff sucked, I looked at is a tour of stuff I don't usually get to see. Tricky to keep that mindset all of the time, of course, but the more you can manage, the better. Happy adventuring!!!
Friday, August 5th, 2005 08:41 pm (UTC)
The numb-toes feeling is one I get frequently, since I managed to frostbite three toes on my right foot. Not badly, but enough to deaden them whenever they get the least bit cold or under pressure. At least I know the sensation will come back eventually, but it is weird to know that that's how it's always gonna be.

I bet your brain will adapt to it, to a certain degree.
Friday, August 5th, 2005 08:54 pm (UTC)
I had IV sedation via the drug Versed for some wisdom tooth surgery. I remember a few bits of it, but the whole procedure seemed to take about 5 minutes. (It actually took 45 minutes.) It wore off to "just sleepy" in a short time.
Friday, August 5th, 2005 08:54 pm (UTC)
The side of my right foot was numb for several weeks because of a nerve injury. At first it was freaky but what was freakier was that I got used to it.
Friday, August 5th, 2005 09:01 pm (UTC)
Dan is good at remembering things like that. And it's his favorite kind, too. Have you tried the ones with the added pepper?

Oh, that sounds like a weird feeling!

brain segfaults

Geek!!!
Friday, August 5th, 2005 09:03 pm (UTC)
My numerous experiences with IV sedation agree with [livejournal.com profile] firecat's. It makes you really loopy as you're waking up, but the sensation is that no time has passed.
Friday, August 5th, 2005 09:29 pm (UTC)
*snork*

I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read this.
Friday, August 5th, 2005 09:37 pm (UTC)
I seem to recall you preferring dark chocolate. It seems to be the more common preference among my friends. And I like to remember those kinds of little details for just such situations. And, hey, you have a bonus ice pack. ;-)

I'm glad you like them. I thought you might be interested in trying the ones with ancho and chipotle chili powder - after my first try, I wish that was a more common find. I can't get Moonstruck locally here - closest is in Champaign, IL, oddly enough.

It definitely sounds like a non-feeling spot would be weird.

And it is a grand adventure - you're journeying into the unknown. :-)
Friday, August 5th, 2005 09:44 pm (UTC)
It IS a grand adventure!

I've got a numb spot on my lower lip after my surgery last year. A little bit of the sensation came back, but I'm sure the one spot is going to stay numb forever now. It is weird, but you do get used to it.
Friday, August 5th, 2005 11:03 pm (UTC)
i know what you mean about the numb toes. i have a section of belly that's numb from surgery nearly four years ago. used to make my brain go kersplody, but now it's just another oddity.

glad you're doing so well. i can't believe the ickyness they pulled outta your feet! no wonder you were in pain! keep on healing! no misbehavin' while i'm gone, you hear! *stern look*

Friday, August 5th, 2005 11:19 pm (UTC)
I have a numb area in a very weird spot. It's in my lower left bikini area near the pubic bone. I had inguinal surgery in 2000 and when it healed the nerves reconnected in an odd fashion. Bits of the area feel like it's asleep and others completely numb. There is even a spot or two that is super sensitive. Weiiiiiiiiird.

So far it sounds like no feeling is better than pain do "Go Numbness!"
Friday, August 5th, 2005 11:49 pm (UTC)
*laughter*

in a sub-dimension outside the Prime Material Plane

That's it! That's where my toes are.
Friday, August 5th, 2005 11:56 pm (UTC)
I don't remember a bit of it. This frustrates me because I suspect I was at least partially conscious! But the drug also has amnesiac properties, and I'm bummed to find out that those properties work fine on me.

First I got an IV installed. That caused a stronger pinch than the usual needle because they put the... shunt? whatever... in THROUGH the needle and then withdrew the needle, meaning that the needle had to be bigger than usual. But it really wasn't bad in terms of pain. Just a pinch. My squeamishness about needles was the thing that bugged me.

Then I was hooked up to some saline. Shortly afterward the anaesthesiologist said "You're going to start to feel relaxed." I don't know whether she was giving me the beginnings of the sedation or a separate drug. I allowed as how I was pretty nervous and relaxed sounded very good to me. I had a few more conversational exchanges with the doctor and the nurse, and I have a very vague memory of my surgeon coming in, and that is IT until I was pridefully fighting to be awake in the recovery area.

I had general for my wisdom teeth, and since I've always bounced back well from that, I have no regrets on that score. I had very very very mild queasiness after IV sedation, possibly attributable to being overhungry. A few pretzel rods cured it, anyway.

Good luck with the wisdom tooth!
Friday, August 5th, 2005 11:57 pm (UTC)
I even remember having been conscious while getting dressed, in recovery, but the actual memories of that are mostly gone as well (drat it).
Saturday, August 6th, 2005 12:00 am (UTC)
Oh yay, I'm not the only one! I'm glad it worked so well for you. It's tricky to keep in mind when there's pain, of course. That's what makes me want to say "adventure be damned, send me back to a life without it". I bet those were the times when you least loved your adventure as well, no? Bleagh! But cool medical stuff? gelatinous blobby pictures? weird sensations to get used to? new terms to study? Bring it on! :-)
Saturday, August 6th, 2005 12:03 am (UTC)
That's one of the things that bothers me about both IV sedation and even general anaesthetic: I like to remain in control of my mental faculties. :-)
Saturday, August 6th, 2005 12:05 am (UTC)
Wow, I didn't know frostbite could have lingering effects without killing the area entirely. I guess it's worse than permanent phantom pain or something like that. Is the numbness of three toes enough to affect your balance?

Yes, other people who've had this surgery say I'll adapt. Sure is weird until then!
Saturday, August 6th, 2005 12:08 am (UTC)
Yeah, people who've had nerve excision surgeries say they adapt, too. That's gotta be strange. I guess I'll find out. Yours sounds like it wasn't permanent, though. That's interesting! I tend to think that nerve injuries are forever or just a minute or two (eg foot "going to sleep"). Glad it all came back!
Saturday, August 6th, 2005 12:10 am (UTC)
When I wrote this post I hadn't tried either of 'em. I em now ENRAPTURED by the plain dark. That is soooooooooo good. The one with added pepper is... intriguing, I like it, but it probably won't ever be my main staple. Oh, that dark, though. Wow.

Why yes, I'm a geek. :-) Thank you!
Saturday, August 6th, 2005 12:11 am (UTC)
The bonus ice pack is handy! I can't have too many ice packs right now.

I.LOVE.THAT.DARK.CHOCOLATE. I hadn't tried it when I wrote the post. I now have a new favorite dark chocolate vendor. MMMMMMMMMMMM. The chili pepper one is intriguing and enjoyable, but that plain dark, WOW.
Saturday, August 6th, 2005 12:14 am (UTC)
That's strange! I'm glad you got used to it. I have a spot on my hand (a lye burn scar) that was numb for a bit over a decade, and now has pretty close to normal sensation in it. So *maybe* your lip will one day begin to come back.

The human body is fascinating in its complexity and capabilities. I think I like it because it's beyond my ken.
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