Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 02:59 pm
There's nothing quite like having a telephone call wherein the person on the other end, filling out a form, asks not only for an emergency contact but "is there any religion you would like to list".
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 03:06 pm (UTC)
I think they *always* do that for general anasthesia. It's almost never a problem, but they want to make sure.
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 03:11 pm (UTC)
That was my guess also, although I am pretty sure I didn't get asked this question when I had oral surgery under general in the fall of 2001. Now I'm musing on what they'd do with the information. Do some religions require a blessing or some sort of ritual very quickly after death? If not, I'd figure they'd just call the emergency contact, and my family would be the ones to deal with those sorts of arrangements.
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 03:16 pm (UTC)
It's because some religions, like Catholicism have last rites that are to be performed as one is dying--It is actually one of the seven sacraments in the Catholic church. Also, many religious officials will come to pray with the dying person/family.
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 03:25 pm (UTC)
I'd thought of last rites, but with general, you don't know the person's going to croak until they're already dead. I don't know how Catholicism (or any other religion, really) feels about rites immediately AFTER death. My very limited understanding was that last rites required responses.

I suppose someone could make sure to get last rites before anaesthesia just to make sure. Is it okay to have last rites lots of times?
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 04:15 pm (UTC)
Is it okay to have last rites lots of times?

Yes, definitely. Any time there's imminent peril of death.

(This public service announcement has been brought to you by your friendly neighborhood dissident Catholic Knight of the Altar.)
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 04:18 pm (UTC)
Thanks!

Does it require responses from the individual?
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 04:46 pm (UTC)
No. The recepient could be unconscious, or recently dead for that matter.
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 04:19 pm (UTC)
Is it okay to have last rites lots of times?

You can receive at least as many last rites as Bush & Blair gave "final warnings" to Iraq.
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 03:19 pm (UTC)
It's probably because you're having it done (I assume) at a place with some sort of chaplain, and your oral sex . . . oh my.

I won't go fix that typo.

I wonder where in hell that came from.

Let's start over.

It's probably because you're having it done (I assume) at a place with some sort of chaplain, and your oral SURGERY was at a place without a chaplain. Your religion was irrelevant.

There are certainly religions in which some sort of ministerial observances "in case something should go wrong" are preferred, including Catholicism.

You'll be fine, if a little gassy. ;)
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 03:23 pm (UTC)
Actually, I think it has more to do with last rites being a sacrament in the Catholic church--most surgeons would know to call a priest if a Catholic patient was dying.
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 03:28 pm (UTC)
Okay, I'll buy that. :)

(I typed "last rites" several times and deleted it, not sure whether CJ would get squicky over thinking about the "what if" situations.)
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 03:29 pm (UTC)
Bwa ha haaa! I love it! I must admit, last time I performed oral sex there was no chaplain present. 8-)

Seriously, that makes sense - the other place having no chaplain. I didn't know this place had one, either, except that them asking me this question is a good indication.

(I'm gassy either way, sad to admit!)
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 03:41 pm (UTC)
*hugs* I remember that discussion when I last had General--it's been a long time back, but I
remember it like it was yesterday.
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 04:15 pm (UTC)
Huh. I've had general twice and haven't had that question asked before. (Or I just don't remember it.) *hugsback*
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 04:03 pm (UTC)
Identifying the patient's religion is not just for the possibility of death. Hospitals have chaplains in residence, who visit patients. They identify patients who might have an especially distressing medical problem, or are elderly and have no family, or things like that. Some patients might consider it an intrusion, and others consider it to be part of the healing process.
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 04:11 pm (UTC)
Well, this isn't a hospital, and I'd hope that those services would be only on request even were it a hospital, but otherwise that makes sense.
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 05:39 pm (UTC)
That's odd that they'd ask that for an outpatient procedure. I had to answer that one with both my surgeries. "leave me alone" was my response first time around, i believe; gotta love those narcotics!!

Hospital chaplains can be quite helpful, even for heathens like me. When my grandma died, the chaplain was sent, sat with us for quite a while, and was the person i recommended mom call when she wanted to raise a little hell about why certain things were or were not done ~ he put her to all the right people. when my mom went into cardiac arrest, the chaplain was sent to sit with me til family arrived, and stuck with us til we were able to see mom in ICU. it was helpful to have someone who knew how the hospital worked and all, as we were not thinking clearly.

hospital chaplains: a multipurpose tool! :-P
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 05:24 pm (UTC)
I was asked about religion when I pre-registered with the hospital prior to Alan's birth. (It was a secular hospital). I think they like to know what you might need just in case.
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 08:49 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I was never quite sure how to answer that one. I ended up just saying "no" most of the time. Except for my hysterectomy -- by then, I was attending the unitarian church fairly regularly. When I said Unitarian, she asked if I would like them to contact my pastor. I thought "wow, how cool is that??" but said "no", 'cause I was too embarrassed by the whole thing. I never thought of that -- that they might try to find some religious person of your denomination (if you had one) to come comfort you in the hospital or during your recovery. I always just thought it was a pointless, noisy question, or maybe related to what they would do if (god forbid) you died while in the hospital.
Tuesday, March 25th, 2003 09:23 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I just answered "no", too. I figured an eclectic mix of Pagan and Buddhist would be hard to explain and equally hard to find a Priestess/monk for. :-) Plus I'm not very religious anyways, so... *shrug*

I'd be pretty surprised if this place found someone to come comfort patients. This place specializes in laparoscopy and plastic surgery. You get IN, you get OUT, and you are GONE.

Found out how much it's costing. The mind boggles. I am glad I currently have health insurance... I don't always. Haven't found the right person, however, to ask about video.