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cjsmith ([personal profile] cjsmith) wrote2008-07-09 11:04 am

There went that free time!

I got home a little earlier than expected last night. I had a big list of stuff I wanted to get done: feed the cats, take my meds, fold laundry, scoop the litterboxes, subq the cat, do a load of dishes, edit an important letter I need to send soon, divide a roast into serving-size containers, and test some handsets for work.

Start at the beginning, right? With cats all locked away with their separate special diets, I took the "evening" portion of my meds. There's not enough space in the pill minder to separate "evening" from "bedtime", so I picked out the ones I needed.

I now realize just how much hydroxychloroquine (generic for Plaquenil) resembles Zolpidem (generic for Ambien).

I did manage to get into the bedroom. By crawling.

[identity profile] psi-star-psi.livejournal.com 2008-07-09 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Yowza! You've got what, another week or so of this junk before you can revert? On the lemonade side of things, think of the great stories you're getting out of this. (And experience points, redeemable for valuable skill upgrades!)

XP is what you get when you don't get what you want

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2008-07-09 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I go in for allergy testing TODAY. Woohoo! (I bet there are people who don't cheer about that. How... quaint, to be so healthy.)

Re: XP is what you get when you don't get what you want

[identity profile] psi-star-psi.livejournal.com 2008-07-09 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I was going to include your subject line in my post, but I figured you've already heard me say it enough. I am delighted to see that I am correct. Good luck on your allergy test! (Which means, of course, I hope the results turn up useful info. Or that you get an A+, whatever.)

[identity profile] mactavish.livejournal.com 2008-07-09 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
You're on Plaquenil? You know about eye tests and stuff, no? And that if you go to India, you're already on an anti-malarial? :) (I was on that for RA for a short while.)

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2008-07-09 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't know I was on Plaquenil until I looked up hydroxychloroquine just now to get a Google image. :) What about eye tests?

[identity profile] mactavish.livejournal.com 2008-07-09 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
It can cause retinal damage, but ophthalmology exams every six months throughout the period of taking, if you're going to be on it for more than a few months, it can catch any damage before it's an issue. Skip the tests, you risk eye damage. Take the tests, there's really no risk, they can see any problems almost before they start. You might need a baseline. You should ask about that. Also, being as it's an antimalarial, you should go to cooking school in India while you're on it. ;)

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2008-07-09 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Sigh. My doctor didn't deign to mention that. Exams are expensive... I suppose that means cooking school in India is right out of the budget, huh? :)

[identity profile] rfrench.livejournal.com 2008-07-09 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
If you are taking hydroxychloroquine for a long period of time, your doctor will recommend frequent eye exams. It is very important that you keep these appointments. Hydroxychloroquine can cause serious vision problems. If you experience any changes in vision, stop taking hydroxychloroquine and call your doctor immediately. (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a601240.html)

I can recommend a couple of wonderful opthalmologists at PAMF if you like.

[identity profile] mactavish.livejournal.com 2008-07-09 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I <3 PAMF. I've had a couple of "pretty good" and one "pretty bad" doctor there. Every other doctor I've seen there has been stellar.

[identity profile] psi-star-psi.livejournal.com 2008-07-09 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
If only you could find some way to learn the same cooking skills, but locally...

Oh, well.

Hmmm, anti-malarial. I recall that a long-term side effect of quinine is hearing loss. (Random trivia researched for an old role-playing character with Addiction: Quinine.) I guess this one isn't quinine-based but still goes after a sensory organ. Wacky.

Edit: And then I actually looked at the name and see that it ends in "quine". My reading comprehension skills are really diving these days.

[identity profile] mactavish.livejournal.com 2008-07-09 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
It's the synthetic, but the recent versions aren't as toxic to body parts as earlier versions.

[identity profile] mactavish.livejournal.com 2008-07-09 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Google gets me this: http://www.medhelp.org/forums/eyecare/archive/54.html
The management of patients on plaquenil has been a controversial subject. Alot [sic] of the concerns are related to the problems caused by chloroquine, the predecesor to hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil). It was much more toxic to the retina and much more likely to cause permanent visual problems. Hydroxychloroquine, on the other hand, is much less toxic to the retina and there have been fewer reported eye problems. In general, a baseline ophthalmic examination should be performed upon initiation of therapy. In addition, a central visual field test and color photographs of the retina are usually taken at that time. There are differing opinions regarding subsequent follow-up exams. The most conservative opinion would include exams every 6 months with repeat visual fields every 6 to 12 months. My general feeling is to perform annual exams with visual field testing. One study determined that the risk of retina toxicity when patients are taking less than 6.5 mg per kilograms per day is rare. This means that a person weighing 150 lbs is likely to be safe if they are taking 200 mg twice daily. I calculate this number regularly and if the person is on more than 6.5 mg per kg per day than I will follow them more closely.


You might be on a lower dose than I was, and mine was 8 years ago, so recent research might have further informed your current doctor.

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2008-07-10 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
I'm taking 200mg twice daily, but I'm a runt. 6.88 mg/kg/day. If I were a normal human I'd be fine. Hmm.

Anyway, thanks for the info! Another thing to ask the doc about.

[identity profile] just-cyd.livejournal.com 2008-07-10 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, one of the perks of plaquenil. i go in every six months for eye exams from an eye doc who is an MD - the whole practice is filled with people with scary eye shit going on. it falls under my health insurance as a "specialist" not a normal eye exam.

one exam is the fun pupil dilation madness; six months later i get the standard vision check sans dilation.

[identity profile] hnybny.livejournal.com 2008-07-09 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
That threw a wrench in your plans, eh?

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2008-07-10 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
It sure did! I wound up facedown in a pile of cell phones, and when Rob said I should get into bed, I told him I wasn't truly asleep, I was concentrating on keeping my stomach where it was. I was, too. That's why I crawled.

[identity profile] jupiter29.livejournal.com 2008-07-09 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooooh, that does not sound good. :( Glad you are coherent enough this morning to type, though. :)

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2008-07-10 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the Ambien hangover isn't pleasant, but it's at least pretty mild. :)

[identity profile] jupiter29.livejournal.com 2008-07-10 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
And if you're going to be hungover from something, you'd at least like the immediate effects to be more pleasant than Ambien as well. :)

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2008-07-10 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
AMEN to THAT! Give me red wine any day. At least it TASTES good.

[identity profile] jupiter29.livejournal.com 2008-07-10 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
Give me red wine any day.

Well, okay. But you'd have to wonder if I was trying to seduce you. :)

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2008-07-10 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
*chuckle* Enough red wine to loosen me up will basically turn me into something you have to pick up with a squeegee. But I do get more smiley and cheerful when I'm mildly tipsy.

[identity profile] jupiter29.livejournal.com 2008-07-11 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm, is there a correct amount where any advances I worked up the nerve to make had a better likelihood of succeeding, but without actually trying to wake you up? :)

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2008-07-10 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
It's funny... now. :-)

[identity profile] just-cyd.livejournal.com 2008-07-10 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
this is why ambien and painkillers live in my bathroom upstairs, and all other daily meds are downstairs.

it's an amusing tale, now that it's overwith. i'm glad you got to a safe horizontal place without injuring yourself or someone else.