[identity profile] dragon-spirit.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I know what you mean. I love what he has to stay, but the verbal diarrhea is too annoying to subject myself to more than once every couple of months.

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
It boggles me that people can read that style of writing and enjoy it. It hurts my head.

[identity profile] tupelo.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I cannot STAND Mark Morford. It hurts my head when people on my friends list talk like he's the end all and be all of columnists.

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't like him much either. I'll admit he occasionally has good stuff, so if only someone would COPYEDIT him...!

[identity profile] hitchhiker.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I read it whenever someone links to it. I figure my entire friendslist makes a good enough filter for his better stuff.

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Sadly, my friends list doesn't add sentence breaks for me. :-)

[identity profile] palecur.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Hay guys what's going on in this morford bash fest can i play too because he makes me want to reach into the printed page and throttle him

[identity profile] visgoth.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I tried to read it.

I made it about half-way through the first sentence, then scanned the next few paragraphs and then gave up.

It looked like it might even be an interesting subject, but I just don't see that it is high enough interest to wade through more of that horrible prose.

[identity profile] visgoth.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Umm... That should be "first paragraph." As in the third sentence.

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the thing that makes my head hurt is the sensation of my internal compute stack overflowing.

[identity profile] wooddragon.livejournal.com 2005-11-05 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, that's exactly how I read it! The subject is one near and dear to my heart (too much crap!), but danged if I could get through one of his sentences without skipping ahead to the end...

[identity profile] deyo.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I once expressed this sentiment by saying, "Mark Morford is my new hero. May I someday write like you write, but not, you know, like you write. (http://deyo.livejournal.com/8389.html)"

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I loved the description of the staunch minimalist house -- it made me laugh. I wish I could come up with bits like that. But I could sure leave off the snideness and the sermonizing. If I wanted to be told how shitty everyone was (and me with them) I'd have kept going to church.

[identity profile] palecur.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
His main thesis -- that EVIL KKKORPORATE AMERIKKKA somehow brainwashes us into accumulating possessions -- is pretty mockable. I'd take up the burden, but it's frankly easier, as a lazy, gluttonous American, to dismiss it with a little moue of disgust. I find that Morford really helps me work on my moue of disgust; my moue muscles can lift 30 pounds now.

We accumulate stuff because we change as people -- we stop using (set of stuff A) and get (set of stuff B) that is more in tune with our new interests. That's not horrible, or morally evil, or wrong; it's just being a damn person. Yes, throw stuff out when you don't use it; that's fine. But ascribing some sort of moral sin-state to clutter is just being a jerk on a titanic scale, which is pretty much bog-standard Morford.

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
The idea that I'm doing something dumb because I'm brainwashed, instead of because I'm dumb, is personally abhorrent to me. If I'm dumb, I can learn. So far, for a variety of issues in my life, dumb wins on evidence. I *have* learned. Many things.

I like his point about clutter in general, though, at least the part of it where he's claiming clutter is a burden. It *is*. And I was amused by his description of the staunch minimalist house "lit by $15K of recessed lighting". Hit that one on the head, he did.

But yeah, he's pretty big on ascribing moral sin-states. That gets old. That was old in high school.

[identity profile] quasigeostrophy.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Ick. I'd managed to avoid him, pretty much, but I followed your link. Ick. That's all I can say. That and reading him hurts my head, too.

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I mean, some images are funny, and right on the button, but... yeow.

[identity profile] lkeele.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I followed the link, and it's pretty interesting, but (A) you're right about the full-stop problem, and (B) it doesn't really apply to someone who keeps moving over the ocean with a limited shipping allowance, does it, and (C) I don't get all his pop culture references.

Still, I love anything that even hints at Buddhism, and "get rid of your junk, just let it go" has a feel of that, doesn't it?

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you on all counts! The fact that this one's about letting go of clutter is what made me link it. Otherwise, gah, that prose...!

[identity profile] klwalton.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I sort of went off Morford about six months ago. I get the newsletter, and if the taste of the article grabs me I'll go read it. But, yeah, I did get tired of the style. And the self-rightousness. My feelings about him are complicated because I really do feel he has some good things to say, and has said them. But I feel like I need a pick and a spade to dig out the gems. It's too much work.

[identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com 2005-11-04 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, communication may be a two-way street but column writing (any writing for a wide audience, really) puts a lot of the burden of effective communication on the sender. If there's too much noise on the channel, the audience drifts away.