You're right, we're too far apart to have a useful discussion. I figured out long ago from Usenet that there's often too high a conceptual or terminology or ideology barrier between people to allow it, and stopped having such arguments because they're pointlessly stressful.
More to the point, this isn't our space to rant in, and I doubt the owner would appreciate it.
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More to the point, this isn't our space to rant in, and I doubt the owner would appreciate it.